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Posted By: ex on: 01/4/2008 23:45:05 ET
Subject: RE: Orcus

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I was rather disappointed to see that not very much is known about Orcus as when my beloved uncle Dick died. Orcus was conjunct or in close aspect to Regulus. Dick had known royalty and designed crockery for important royal occasions that became collectors pieces the world over. Pluto was also conjunct the galatic centre at the time. I suppose what I'm trying to say after finding only scanty information about Orcus is that one should look to the fixed stars when assessing this planet. Perhaps it interacts better with them than with this system. It therefore represents a gateway to other constellations and the fixed stars perhaps. Any more information would be appreciated. Many Thanks Danielle

Sorry i hijacked your thread from your original question about Orcus as a siderial gateway. :-( From what i have seen so far Orcus seems to work just fine in the tropical astrology system, which means that though it may be subtle it is still "hardwired" into our Earthly experiences. it seems prominant in visual art and sculpture along with Quaoar, in a way that Pluto doesn't seem to be. it makes me wonder about the Kuiper belt in general and what they mean compared to the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The asteroids of the asteroid belt seem to indicate that which we see. (you know, asteroid "Pizzarello" or whatever it is called conjuncts your natal mars square Sun and you T-bone a pizza delivery vehicle in traffic. Or it conjoins your natal Jupiter and you scam a free pizza pie from the local Pizza shop). Pie in the box or pie in the sky, it's the same pie. each asteroid is like a single pixel that in whole draws up a giant picture of whatever is happening in our everyday lives. We can watch the giant wrap-around screen between Mars and Jupiter or we can watch our everyday life, it's the same movie. So while it is fascinating, it "doesn't tell us anything new" as astrologer Stephen Forrest wrote.

However the transneptune objects like Orcus seem to be like the looonnng shadows of those inner asteroids, in the twighlight of the Solarsystem. Remember the "Days of Future Past" album by the Moody Blues? "Cold Hearted orbs which rule the night, remove the colors from our sight, red is gray and yellow white, yet we decide which is right, and which is an illusion". Where the inner asteroids between Mars and Jupiter are that which we see in our everyday lives, that which we "vision", Orcus and Quaoar seem to me to be that which we "envision".

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