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Posted By: Richard on: 09/2/2006 20:06:06 ET|
Subject: RE: Planet Discovery Charts - Xena+Sedna+Quaoar
I have actually been searching for the info....|
Source: M. Brown's own homepage http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/
"The object was first observed on Oct. 21, 2003, but the team did not see it move in the sky until looking at the same area 15 months later on Jan. 8, 2005."
( here we stumble upon the first problem: should we count the time when the photo shots were taken or the time of discovery by a conscious human being ? )
Time for the initial shots, although they are not mentioned in the source, must be in the evening, because the the three shots are getting subsequentially darker.. that leaves a time span of 2-3 hours
the pictures are timed for 6:32 UT - 8:03 UT - 9:38 UT (UT=universal time?) -- again, which time should we take ? ...
The first discovery image was taken at 2002 June 04 05:41:40 (Universal Time = Greenwich, England) from the Palomar Observatory 48-inch Oschin telescope. I identified Quaoar in the image at 2002 Jun 05 10:48:08 (Pacific Daylight Time).
I usually try to avoid jumping into the discussions here in the forum too much, preferring to let others say what needs to be said. This is, after all, your place to speak.
However, I've been accumulating discovery data for the new planets, which I include below. The time of discovery is actually a no-brainer. It's the time the astronomers *realized* they had discovered something, not the time the photograph was made. Some of these new planets were photographed in the 1950s but nobody realized they had photographed a planet until the 21st Century. So the 21st Century date is the discovery date.
The principle is pretty firm here, and it applies to time of day as well, which is why Quaoar has a 10:48am discovery time. That was the time the astronomers *realized* they had discovered something. So that is the time the planet made it's first impact (birth) in human consciousness.
Thus my list below. So far I haven't been able to pin down a time of day for the discovery of Orcus. The others we know. But two more discovered but unnamed plaets, EL61 and FY9, are not included because I haven't located their discovery data yet.
The discovery chart for Quaoar I've already posted on this website. Point your browser to: http://www.karmastrology.com/qdiscv.shtml
Thanks to all of you for your interest in the new planets. Have fun with the discovery data below.
2003 UB313 aka Xena
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